Fuck Ron Paul

That’s all I have to say about that.

And fuck all you pseudo-Libertarian (hell, big L or little l) douchebags, too.

Not really having anything to do with Ron Paul, though, but…

Why is it that so many intelligent people that I respect for so many reasons happen to be dipshit libertarian asshats? Why?

Penn & Teller. Trey Parker & Matt Stone. Why? Seriously. What the fuck. They’re so smart, otherwise.

Is it just because as Americans, they’ve seen the government fuck up so badly that they can’t see any solution other than getting rid of the whole damned thing? Or what.

I dunno. I’m drunk. But I’m also Canadian, and a semihemidemi-socialist.

More taxes for everyone!

Yayyyyyy taxes!

64 thoughts on “Fuck Ron Paul

  1. Why is it that so many intelligent people that I respect for so many reasons happen to be SOCIALISTS?

  2. Why is it that so many intelligent people that I respect for so many reasons happen to be SOCIALISTS?

  3. “Is it just because as Americans, they’ve seen the government fuck up so badly that they can’t see any solution other than getting rid of the whole damned thing? Or what.”

    Pretty much. Were you hoping for someone that supports the SPP?

  4. “Is it just because as Americans, they’ve seen the government fuck up so badly that they can’t see any solution other than getting rid of the whole damned thing? Or what.”

    Pretty much. Were you hoping for someone that supports the SPP?

  5. Its because we have seen dipshits from both the right and the left ruin our country.

  6. Its because we have seen dipshits from both the right and the left ruin our country.

  7. If I may comment on Libertythor’s comment – since when has anybody on the left had a chance to “ruin” the US? There ARE no politicians “on the left” in mainstream US politics. The choice is between far-right and middle-right. There is no left. Seriously, there isn’t. Come to Europe if you don’t believe me.

    More taxes!!! Tax and spend, that’s what I say!

  8. If I may comment on Libertythor’s comment – since when has anybody on the left had a chance to “ruin” the US? There ARE no politicians “on the left” in mainstream US politics. The choice is between far-right and middle-right. There is no left. Seriously, there isn’t. Come to Europe if you don’t believe me.

    More taxes!!! Tax and spend, that’s what I say!

  9. Haha. Speaking as another non-American… you’re right. The Democrats are middle-right at best. There is no left-wing in this country. Well, that’s not entirely true. But those edging towards leftism also all seem to be whacked-out conspiracy theorists (9.11 troofers, anti-vax-heads, yadda yadda) or hair-trigger political-correctness alarmists. What is wrong with this country I’m living in?

  10. Haha. Speaking as another non-American… you’re right. The Democrats are middle-right at best. There is no left-wing in this country. Well, that’s not entirely true. But those edging towards leftism also all seem to be whacked-out conspiracy theorists (9.11 troofers, anti-vax-heads, yadda yadda) or hair-trigger political-correctness alarmists. What is wrong with this country I’m living in?

  11. Economically, Bush isn’t far-right at all. Spending on entitlement programs has increased faster under his administration than it did under Clinton’s. Fascist doesn’t necessarily mean right wing.

    Authoritarian and arrogant is a better term for the doofuses we have in office. Authoritarian Fascist right-wingers and their left-wing Marxist counterparts end up looking very similar when you examine the issues closer.

    As far as Socialism goes, it doesn’t work in all cultures. It was a disaster in Mexico. It seems to work okay for the scandinavian countries….but that doesn’t mean that it will function in a nation the size (geographicaly speaking) of the United States.

    Ron Paul is more concerned about leaving social concerns and causes to the states, as our constitution doesn’t permit a high degree of centralization on the federal level. There can’t be a one-size-fits-all plan for the US because of the drastic contrasts in cultural mores and ethnicities that exist between the states.

  12. Economically, Bush isn’t far-right at all. Spending on entitlement programs has increased faster under his administration than it did under Clinton’s. Fascist doesn’t necessarily mean right wing.

    Authoritarian and arrogant is a better term for the doofuses we have in office. Authoritarian Fascist right-wingers and their left-wing Marxist counterparts end up looking very similar when you examine the issues closer.

    As far as Socialism goes, it doesn’t work in all cultures. It was a disaster in Mexico. It seems to work okay for the scandinavian countries….but that doesn’t mean that it will function in a nation the size (geographicaly speaking) of the United States.

    Ron Paul is more concerned about leaving social concerns and causes to the states, as our constitution doesn’t permit a high degree of centralization on the federal level. There can’t be a one-size-fits-all plan for the US because of the drastic contrasts in cultural mores and ethnicities that exist between the states.

  13. P.S. Aspects of Socialism have functioned okay in Canada because of the high degree of autonomy that the provinces have in administering their programs.

    Ron Paul’s agenda would end up being similar. Actually, California is on its way to socialized-medicine on the state level. A Ron Paul presidency would do nothing to jeopardize that.

  14. P.S. Aspects of Socialism have functioned okay in Canada because of the high degree of autonomy that the provinces have in administering their programs.

    Ron Paul’s agenda would end up being similar. Actually, California is on its way to socialized-medicine on the state level. A Ron Paul presidency would do nothing to jeopardize that.

  15. Ron Paul is a dick. There’s my rebuttal for ya. It’s a simple fact. There is no possible way that you can dispute the truth.

    But uh wha. The states don’t have autonomy? That’s the entire M.O. of this country, ain’t it? If that’s not working, you should probably rethink the entire nation. I think yer’ve got this kinda ass-backwards, but then, I’m the drunk’un.

    As for “Ron Paul is more concerned about leaving social concerns and causes to the states”, well. That’s half and half BS as far as what I’ve read so far, and I disagree with him on most of his craptastic social viewpoints, but then again, I can’t vote in this country, and the election is a billion years away or something like that anyway, so fuck it.

  16. Ron Paul is a dick. There’s my rebuttal for ya. It’s a simple fact. There is no possible way that you can dispute the truth.

    But uh wha. The states don’t have autonomy? That’s the entire M.O. of this country, ain’t it? If that’s not working, you should probably rethink the entire nation. I think yer’ve got this kinda ass-backwards, but then, I’m the drunk’un.

    As for “Ron Paul is more concerned about leaving social concerns and causes to the states”, well. That’s half and half BS as far as what I’ve read so far, and I disagree with him on most of his craptastic social viewpoints, but then again, I can’t vote in this country, and the election is a billion years away or something like that anyway, so fuck it.

  17. Yes! They have autonomy, but not the degree required by the constitution.

  18. Yes! They have autonomy, but not the degree required by the constitution.

  19. To clarify: he’s fucking backwards on most every social issue that I care about as a non-piece-of-shit (he is a Republican, and all), and every economic policy that makes sense to me as a student of economics and commerce (he’s a Republican edging towards inviable libertarian ideals, and all) therefore fuck the bastard.

    Oh, and as a woman… Die, fucking, die, leave my fucking uterus alone.

  20. To clarify: he’s fucking backwards on most every social issue that I care about as a non-piece-of-shit (he is a Republican, and all), and every economic policy that makes sense to me as a student of economics and commerce (he’s a Republican edging towards inviable libertarian ideals, and all) therefore fuck the bastard.

    Oh, and as a woman… Die, fucking, die, leave my fucking uterus alone.

  21. He stated that abortion should be an issue decided on a state by state basis.

  22. He stated that abortion should be an issue decided on a state by state basis.

  23. His BS on leaving shit up to the states… to me… seems like a cop-out, because he doesn’t shut his mouth quite soon enough. It’s still clear which obsolete views he supports, so fie.

    But yeah, I’m all about higher taxes and more government. Yayyyyy government! <3

  24. His BS on leaving shit up to the states… to me… seems like a cop-out, because he doesn’t shut his mouth quite soon enough. It’s still clear which obsolete views he supports, so fie.

    But yeah, I’m all about higher taxes and more government. Yayyyyy government! <3

  25. I am an International Business major, and I don’t see anything disastrous that his economic policies would bring about.

    They sure as hell can’t do worse than Bush or Clinton. Lets face it, by the second the Chinese and Saudis are buying up more of the Government’s debt… and due to the idiocy of US fiscal policy, the Canadian Dollar is tied with, if not ahead of, the US Dollar. Right now its not that big of a deal, but do you remember the Mexican Peso crisis in the 90’s?

    Disaster is around the corner if SOMEBODY (doesn’t have to be Ron Paul) doesn’t make a move to put a stop this reckless spending. Ending the war in Iraq and our nation building schemes will be a start.

  26. I am an International Business major, and I don’t see anything disastrous that his economic policies would bring about.

    They sure as hell can’t do worse than Bush or Clinton. Lets face it, by the second the Chinese and Saudis are buying up more of the Government’s debt… and due to the idiocy of US fiscal policy, the Canadian Dollar is tied with, if not ahead of, the US Dollar. Right now its not that big of a deal, but do you remember the Mexican Peso crisis in the 90’s?

    Disaster is around the corner if SOMEBODY (doesn’t have to be Ron Paul) doesn’t make a move to put a stop this reckless spending. Ending the war in Iraq and our nation building schemes will be a start.

  27. Whoever gets in office…I hope it is somebody who is serious about eliminating our external debt. If that isn’t taken care of, there won’t enough economy to tax.

  28. Whoever gets in office…I hope it is somebody who is serious about eliminating our external debt. If that isn’t taken care of, there won’t enough economy to tax.

  29. LOL Just to clarify things…..we are both up in the wee hours of the morning. My intention is just to have a friendly exchange. : )

  30. LOL Just to clarify things…..we are both up in the wee hours of the morning. My intention is just to have a friendly exchange. : )

  31. Pay-per-use thinking won’t fix that. It’s inequitable and maintains divisiveness. And yeah, the American dollar is fucked. I won’t complain. I’m Canadian, and receive Canadian currency frequently. So. N’yah. I’m quite well-off lately.

    Ice cream time! Fare thee well :-p

  32. Pay-per-use thinking won’t fix that. It’s inequitable and maintains divisiveness. And yeah, the American dollar is fucked. I won’t complain. I’m Canadian, and receive Canadian currency frequently. So. N’yah. I’m quite well-off lately.

    Ice cream time! Fare thee well :-p

  33. I understand that your views are towards the left. I just hope that you would consider a Democrat like Dennis Kucinich or Anne Richards over Hillary, Edwards, and Obama.

  34. I understand that your views are towards the left. I just hope that you would consider a Democrat like Dennis Kucinich or Anne Richards over Hillary, Edwards, and Obama.

  35. Canada is a country I respect. Its form of socialism has worked okay because the provinces have a huge say in how everything is implemented on the local level…. (At least that is my impression from Canadians I know and from the media outlets in Canada.)

    Anything in the US in regards to socialized medicine and such needs to be a state initiative. If you are in the US, consider moving to California or Oregon. Those states are in the process of implementing universal coverage.

  36. Canada is a country I respect. Its form of socialism has worked okay because the provinces have a huge say in how everything is implemented on the local level…. (At least that is my impression from Canadians I know and from the media outlets in Canada.)

    Anything in the US in regards to socialized medicine and such needs to be a state initiative. If you are in the US, consider moving to California or Oregon. Those states are in the process of implementing universal coverage.

  37. But….simply removing the regulations that privilege the large insurance companies and HMOs would go a long way in reducing healthcare costs in the US.

    20 years ago there was less government involvement in medicine, and things weren’t nearly as bad as they are now.

  38. But….simply removing the regulations that privilege the large insurance companies and HMOs would go a long way in reducing healthcare costs in the US.

    20 years ago there was less government involvement in medicine, and things weren’t nearly as bad as they are now.

  39. As a Canadian lefty, yes. Very yes. The Liberal Party of Canada is 73x more liberal than America has experienced. And I vote to the left of them.

    Don’t worry, I won’t be able to vote in the next election anyway. But when I can… Well, I guess I’ll be voting for anyone who promises to fix the backlogs/unreasonable fees associated with the USCIS? And then, based on other voting experiences in my life, I will vote for a third party, and it won’t matter, because I won’t be in Canada anymore, where the third party has at least a chance.

    If I could vote here, I wouldn’t vote for any candidate I’ve heard of so far. Very possibly, I would cast a vote for “declined” (can you even do that here?), or turn my ballot in blank. I’d still show up!

    Anyway, I’m not even going to get into healthcare. Having experienced both the American and Canadian systems, however… To hellllllllll with America. I pay so much more, and I get so much less. Awesome!

    But yeah. Socialism doesn’t have to mean entirely or even mainly federal government, I’m glad you understand that. It would be a disaster!

    Ohmigod I really must sleep.

  40. As a Canadian lefty, yes. Very yes. The Liberal Party of Canada is 73x more liberal than America has experienced. And I vote to the left of them.

    Don’t worry, I won’t be able to vote in the next election anyway. But when I can… Well, I guess I’ll be voting for anyone who promises to fix the backlogs/unreasonable fees associated with the USCIS? And then, based on other voting experiences in my life, I will vote for a third party, and it won’t matter, because I won’t be in Canada anymore, where the third party has at least a chance.

    If I could vote here, I wouldn’t vote for any candidate I’ve heard of so far. Very possibly, I would cast a vote for “declined” (can you even do that here?), or turn my ballot in blank. I’d still show up!

    Anyway, I’m not even going to get into healthcare. Having experienced both the American and Canadian systems, however… To hellllllllll with America. I pay so much more, and I get so much less. Awesome!

    But yeah. Socialism doesn’t have to mean entirely or even mainly federal government, I’m glad you understand that. It would be a disaster!

    Ohmigod I really must sleep.

  41. I’d take Paul over Ignatief any day and Happy Jack hasn’t been doing to good lately. You’re for big government because the worse you’ve seen is Mulroney. Voting for Big Government enables people like Bush. But then again, you’re the drunk one. Maybe tomorrow when your head clears you can think of the dangers of big government. Hell, if the Fraser Institute gets its way Canada will just be another State in the Union anyway. That shouldn’t bother you though…. just more government.

  42. I’d take Paul over Ignatief any day and Happy Jack hasn’t been doing to good lately. You’re for big government because the worse you’ve seen is Mulroney. Voting for Big Government enables people like Bush. But then again, you’re the drunk one. Maybe tomorrow when your head clears you can think of the dangers of big government. Hell, if the Fraser Institute gets its way Canada will just be another State in the Union anyway. That shouldn’t bother you though…. just more government.

  43. Don’t worry…we don’t have socialism in Sweden either. Everybody’s hovering around the centre over here. To be honest, I don’t really care WHAT side the asshole politicians in charge are on, as long as they do what they said they would do, and serve the people who put them in. Give me an honest politician, of any stripe, and I will vote for him.

    You probably can see that I don’t vote very often…

  44. Don’t worry…we don’t have socialism in Sweden either. Everybody’s hovering around the centre over here. To be honest, I don’t really care WHAT side the asshole politicians in charge are on, as long as they do what they said they would do, and serve the people who put them in. Give me an honest politician, of any stripe, and I will vote for him.

    You probably can see that I don’t vote very often…

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